Hearings into Corrections Department continue
JEFFERSON CITY -- A top Department of Corrections official has told a House subcommittee poor training, bureaucracy, and the Departmentís growth have contributed to problems with harassment and retaliation among Missouri prison employees.
Dave Dormire is the Departmentís Director of Adult Institutions and has been in the Department more than 40 years. He has announced he will retire April 1.
He talked to the House Subcommittee on Corrections Workforce Environment and Conduct after it had heard testimony from several other department officials, employees, and former employees.
The subcommittee was formed after news articles shed light on cases in which Department employees alleged theyíd been harassed and, in some cases, retaliated against. Several of those cases have gone to court, and several of those resulted in settlements costing the state millions of dollars.
Since September, 2011, Dormire has been responsible for some staff appointments, overseeing the safety of staff and inmates, and for disciplinary decisions.
Dormire was asked why some of the people who had been involved in those incidents still work for the Department. He told lawmakers some allegations go unsustained, and some efforts are made to correct employees rather than fire them after a first incident.
"Iíll blame the culture a little bit. As you know, correction officer is a tough job," Dormire said. "We train them specifically to continue to watch and address behaviors. Then they become supervisors, and thatís the behavior theyíve learned Ė to address behaviors. Theyíre not well trained Ė I acknowledge that Ė not well trained on being a good supervisor."
Dormire told subcommittee member John McCaherty (R-High Ridge) the Department has not tolerated its employees committing harassment or unprofessional behavior repeatedly.
"I know thatís your feeling, but we do tolerate it," McCaherty responded. "Itís going on in the Department, itís going on now, and thatís why we have a committee because weíve been tolerating it, so I know your hope is that we donít tolerate it but as a department we do tolerate it."
"I understand your opinion, sir. Obviously when I have my records to show what weíve done and how weíve addressed things," Dormire said.
"And we have court cases to show the other side of it," said McCaherty.
Dormire said the Corrections Department has grown to eight times the size it was when he started there, to more than 32-thousand inmates and roughly 8,000 staff throughout the prison system.
"Thatís created all kinds of bureaucracy and things like that, and management issues. Iím not here to make excuses but other departments have not faced that type of growth," said Dormire.
Subcommittee members told Dormire it has been reviewing reports of harassment and retaliation that date back as much as 20 years.
"It looked like our employees wouldíve been better off behind bars," said Chairman Jim Hansen (R-Frankford). "They wouldíve been safer there than they would from some of their supervisors, and itís disturbing."
Committee members also asked Dormire about reports theyíve heard of nepotism in the Departmentís hiring and promotion practices. At an earlier hearing, they heard from a former employee that wardens often ignore the recommendations of panels assigned to recommend employees for promotion. The system was described as one of "good olíboys" hiring and promoting friends and relatives.
Dormire told lawmakers the Department used the stateís Merit system, created in state law to prevent favoritism, political influence, or arbitrary decisions in hiring and other employment decisions.
Representative Kathie Conway (R-St. Charles), who said she has heard of, "so much nepotism," in the department, challenged Dormire on that claim.
"We have to use the Merit system," said Dormire.
"You have to not sexually harass people, too, but that didnít seem to be the case," said Conway.
Committee members asked Dormire about allegations raised by recent articles by Pitch.com suggesting that he had been involved in retaliation against employees, and had been deceptive in his answers in some investigations. Dormire denied those allegations.
Asked specifically whether he testified that disciplining two guards accused of harassing two nurses would have been "moot" because the nurses had quit, Dormire said, "I donít remember making that statement in particular. I donít normally use that word. Itís possible. I donít remember that."
Committee members again indicated they are looking to those at or near the top of the Corrections Departmentís hierarchy Ė wardens and administrative officials Ė as being largely at fault.
Hansen said of the cases of harassment heís read about wardens seemed to be involved in some, and "totally incompetent," in others.
"I think youíve got good wardens," Dormire told Hansen. "Some of them need some help."
"They need help? We donít have time. This is costing the state taxpayers millions of dollars," Hansen responded. "We got people who are supposed to be head of the parade that are playing out of tune and out of step with the marching band."
Representative Bruce Franks (D-St. Louis City) said he feels the committee still isnít being told who it must talk to, to get to the nucleus of issues in the Department.
"We talked about the culture, we passed the buck today two or three times, we said we can blame the culture, we can blame the growth, we can blame all of these different things, except for blaming ourselves Ė the people who are actually in charge," said Franks. "We have a lot of people up top who arenít held accountable and who arenít holding those right up under them accountable, who make 90-thousand, 50-thousand, 100-thousand, 85-thousand, so maybe we need to take about seven or eight of these particular jobs out and distribute their salaries to those who are making nothing to do most of the work."